Comments on: Study shines light on the fact that sunscreens don’t appear to offer real protection against melanoma https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/ A health-focused blog that makes sense of science, and offers accurate, trustworthy and practical advice about all aspects of healthy living. Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:30:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.11 By: Ben - Bristol https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205821 Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:30:04 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205821 When I think about sun screen and skin cancer and how ‘dangerous’ the sun is I can’t help feeling that it does not make sense. Even if the sun is stronger now due to the Ozone layer being thinner, does it really make sense that the SUN, the giver of all life and energy on Earth, would give us cancer?
I am sure that our hunter gatherer ancestors did not get skin cancer. They probably stayed in the shade at midday and chilled out, but they also were exposed to a lot of extended sunlight. Surely it is what we eat that makes us susceptible to skin cancer? Skin cancer mostly is a western illness, in my opinion caused by a western junk food diet. If you eat rubbish, chemical laden foods then those same chemicals will end up in your skin, in your fat cells just below the skin and in the blood that nourishes and supplies your skin.
Eat a clean, natural diet with lots of water and rich in antioxidants and ditch the suncream.

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By: Kathy from Maine https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205491 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 19:51:25 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205491 You said, “Around water it’s especially important to protect the skin when the sun is baking hot.” I have an interesting story on that.

For all my life I would burn easily and not tan well at all. That is, until one summer around 2003 when we vacationed in Key West. My husband and I chartered a boat for a day of deep-sea fishing. I brought everything I thought we would need in a big satchel, except I forgot the sunscreen! Oh well, I figured if I burned, I burned, and just decided to have fun. I wore a bathing suit with shorts on over it, and just a ball cap on my head, so I had LOTS of exposed skin.

We were on the water most of the day, and when we got back, I was surprised that just the tops of my shoulders were only slightly pink, and even that was gone by the next day. No burn!

Ever since then, I rarely burn (only if I’m out for like 4 hours early in the summer before I have a base tan) and I tan easily and darkly. Every weekend I mow 5 acres of grass, which takes around 3 – 4 hours. I never burn anymore and I don’t use sunscreen.

I wouldn’t advocate this for others to try, but something sure changed for me that summer.

I’ve always suspected there was something in the sunscreens themselves that was causing (or allowing for) the melanomas. After all, the rise in melanomas coincides with the rise in the use of sunscreens. You don’t see people like construction workers–who are out in the sun all day long–get skin cancers. It’s the lily-white folks who spend 12 hours a day in the sun for 2 weeks straight during their once-a-year vacation who get it.

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By: Liz Smith https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205393 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:44:29 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205393 While in Australia during Dec-Feb 2014 when the temps were up to 42oc in WA. My sisters grandchildren were usually plastered in sunscreen but they all came out in red rashes so they hated putting anything on their skin. This lack of cover made them stay out of the sun which in young kids meant no going out.

We ventured to a good pharmacy and asked if they had any sun screen without the ‘nasties’ in it, and I was taken to the area where I had a choice of about eight. Using a muscle test with all the kids I found a cream that said they could use it. The shock of the price would have choked a horse it was so expensive, A$30 = £16.50 per tube.

It was successful in that the kids did not get the rashes and they tanned beautifully during the time of their trips to their swimming lessons.

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By: Study shines light on the fact that sunscreens don’t appear to offer real protection against melanoma « wchildblog https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205392 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:00:35 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205392 […] Dr John Briffa, 13 June […]

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By: Mark Sanders https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205381 Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:42:04 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205381 I’m curious as to why everyone thinks that sun exposure is the only cause of skin cancer. Other organs in the body obviously are not exposed to the sun and are perfectly capable of developing cancer due to other reasons.

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205320 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:29:12 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205320 OldTech, do you mind my asking what do you class as sun damage on your hands, and how might you describe what it looks like?

You may be correct about cause, but it may also be easy to have ruled out other possible causes that hadn’t come to mind. For example, I’ve noted people give accounts of liver spots fading, when they give up on marg and veg oils and eat more natural fats.

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By: OldTech https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205304 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:39:17 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205304 I still remember my father telling me to wear a hat and long sleeve shirts when working outdoors. He explained that was traditional method of getting protection from the sun. Of course that was in the 60’s and we knew better.

I now follow his advice and have been since I was in my 40’s. I do have sun damage on my hands so now I also wear gloves when working outside in bright sunshine. And I will be telling my grandchildren to cover up.

I have often wondered about how such traditions developed. Perhaps it was just preventing sunburn. When my dad was growing up on a farm it was not uncommon to be working outside in the fields all day long.

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By: Soul https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205294 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:34:04 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205294 Not that anyone would purchase the water, just to clarify since I’ve seen there are many different types of structured water for sale. I would spray the reddened skin area with product called Willards Water, which is reported to be structured water. There are many other products sold as being similar. Don’t know if the other products are as helpful as I found this product with slight sunburns.

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By: Soul https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205292 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:09:10 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205292 I spent a portion of winter in sunny Florida. While there I practiced sensible sun exposure, avoiding being burnt. Occasionally I enjoying brief sun exposure to make vitamin D and other substances that UV light is reported to create in the skin. Short duration sun exposure tends to make me feel more upbeat and healthier.

When wanting to avoid the sun I’ve found it more helpful at covering up with clothing and a hat. It’s been awhile since I’ve used sun lotions myself. For what ever reason I’ve tended to find sunscreens make me feel run down.

There were a couple times this winter though where I found myself in the sun longer than expected and not covered up as hoped. During those times I found myself the next day with a slight burn. I found it remarkable that what helped deaden the pain best was applying simple structured water. Pretty much instantly the pain would go away and the redness would be gone quickly too.

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By: Thomas Murphy https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205265 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:32:40 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205265 Not necessarily for publication!

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The study was done in mice [1], and you can read a report about it on the BBC website here. The bottom line is that this study found that factor 50 sunscreen reduced the time it took for light exposure to induce melanoma, but the melanoma developed all the same.

Surely this should read:

The study was done in mice [1], and you can read a report about it on the BBC website here. The bottom line is that this study found that factor 50 sunscreen INCREASED the time it took for light exposure to induce melanoma, but the melanoma developed all the same.

Otherwise, the statement does not make sense!

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By: PhilT https://www.drbriffa.com/study-shines-light-on-the-fact-that-sunscreens-dont-appear-to-offer-real-protection-againt-melanoma/#comment-205259 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 07:47:05 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6380#comment-205259 Sunscreen seems to be suffering from inflation too – everything seems to be factor 15 or higher, you have to hunt around to find sensible factors like 4 or 8 that allow me to spend several hours in the sun with the equivalent of less than 1 hours UV exposure.

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