Comments on: New study on earthing finds potential benefits for the circulation https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/ A health-focused blog that makes sense of science, and offers accurate, trustworthy and practical advice about all aspects of healthy living. Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:43:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.11 By: Historygirl https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-203486 Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:43:18 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-203486 In reply to Lorna.

Your grandmother was so right! I was always put to bed quite early as a child and could hear the other children playing outside on warm, light summer evenings; have always attributed much of my lifelong insomnia to early bedtimes! I shall try to follow her barefoot example, too (weather permitting).

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By: Mista https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-198177 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:09:29 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-198177 I have been grounding for several months & the ONLY thing I have noticed through it is the reduction in STATIC, I get in bed or sitting in my chair, although, sitting at my desk & grounding, I STILL GET LOTS OF STATIC….When I wake in the morning I am still very sore & stiff………… *** HOW long does it take for grounding to really take effect????****

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By: Dr John Briffa https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197620 Tue, 28 May 2013 06:27:13 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197620 Hi Chris

I must say, never heard of the Zwitterion effect before.

The explanation you offer seems plausible and am wondering if Martin Zucker might have a view.

Perhaps send him and email here info@earthinginstitute.net and see what comes back.

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By: New study on earthing finds potential benefits for the circulation | lifeandeconomicdemocracy https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197612 Mon, 27 May 2013 11:59:13 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197612 […] He blogged about it in a post dated 18th April 2012 (link here) and then again on 3rd May 2013 (link here). He’s been earthing for a year and acknowledges that over the course of that year some […]

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197593 Sat, 25 May 2013 09:53:46 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197593 Dr Briffa,

Something has been bothering me about this Earthing thing.

Looking at matters from a systems analysis kinda perspective I began to wonder about how we get depleted of free electrons or how we build up positive charge. The authors suggest it is induced, in a way, by the gradient in the global electrical circuit, and I should think that is correct. However.

Since life is radical chemistry, ie. highly ionised or based deeply upon ion exchanges, it dawned on me very slowly that we could be losing ions in some way. Leading suspects could involve one of several of these: excretia, urine, or exhaled breath condensates (EBCs).

I am not so familiar with chemistry, or biochemistry, to be certain, but since a paper speaks of a rise in the basicity of EBCs during exertion then a rise in hydroxide ionisation (OH-) is intimated, perhaps. Exercise and exertion raise the pH of the exhaled breath and its condensates it would seem. Not fully conclusive yet, but it would make sense I’ve -ve ions were sacrificed as an accompaniment to breathing because of the balance of H+ transport in the blood.

In the absence of free electrons our body and physiology would trend to lower pH, notwithstanding I haven’t the faintest idea of what I am talking about, but the attributes of amino acids and proteins may conform to the Zwitterion effect, where they tend to be cationic (in acid) and anionic (in base). Presumably, a swing in pH, as a result of free electron deficiency, could alter behavioural aspects of, or outcomes stemming from, anything involving a zwitterion?

Bless ‘Biochemistry for Dummies’ (Moore and Langley) cos if I figured it right the book deserves the claim in title !

What do you think?

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By: Tracey Greenwood https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197532 Mon, 20 May 2013 23:22:52 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197532 Great blog post, very interesting and makes much sense!

We – as a species – were never meant to wear shoes. Indeed, I have read some articles championing running barefoot, and I know Eddie Izzard has been practising this over the last couple of years (often via the Thames Path in London).

I myself hear the call of the sea, and while I have no desire to swim in it, whenever I am visiting a coastal area I MUST go stand on the shore, at the sea edge or paddling ankle-deep. I try to get a good 10 minutes at least of this, usually gazing out across the water, taking in the view, the smell, the feeling of being *connected*, the spray on my face, and YES I can feel my battery recharging: this is something I have always said!

I will have to do some reading :o)

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By: Thomas H https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197351 Wed, 08 May 2013 09:45:13 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197351 Christop. Of course – the most in our lives is about money, but this is not so expensive to test by your self. Compare to much other things, it is cheapy and simple!

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By: Christoph Dollis https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197349 Wed, 08 May 2013 07:54:05 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197349 Chris,

I take your point regarding resistance. I’d need to see experiments of that aspect in particular and a detailed analysis of it to credit it.

The studies that have been done so far on this haven’t been great, I think, and they’ve been few. If this is really the best thing going in medicine/health as the promoters think, I hope they remedy this.

Especially if they’re selling products related to that.

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197345 Tue, 07 May 2013 22:31:43 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197345 Bruce,

When I first experimented with earthing it was in relations to a troublesome strain of the right elbow. i stripped a length of single core copper wire and rigged a length of flex, small croc clip, and aregular three pin plug so i could coil the copper wire around the elbow while sleeping. it helped a lot.

The 1 megaohm resistance in standard ESD wristbands is there to limit the flow of current. its a trckle charge (or more correctlly ‘discharge’) that is desired. I suspect the steady discharge ad rebalancing is healthy and adaptive, whereas a rapid rebalancing wouldn’t be because the current could be high wheareas in an entirely natural setting it would always be low.

It can be a bit tricky to gets ones head around. Its the deficit oif electrons (net positive charge in the body) that encouarges the flow of free electrons into the body, but once the demand is satisfied the rate of flow of free electrons into the body would be slow.

I suspect, but have’t yet established, that we lose -ve ions via ionised carbon dioxide exhaled in th respiratory cycle. it is acknowledged that blue sky days result in more highly ionised oxygen for us to breath and the -vely ionised O2 helps the transport of O2 in the blodd and invogoartes body and mind aiding ‘blue-sky thinking’. It seems queer that respiration could take in healthy and vitalising -ve ions and yet also be the pathway via which the could be a lsoo of -ve ions, yet Martin Zuker and his chums reckon were are depeleted of free electrons (ions). There has to be a way via which the loss and deficit arises, and intuition makes me question respiration.

We do not have to be grounded, btw, a source of free electrons as if from the -ve terminal of any battery is good, but the earths potential has its own cycles, and ‘ground’ will signal those cycles.

Earthing may be anti-nflammatort and vitalising in the absence of the 1 megaohm resitor, but it is probably expedient and sensible to keep the currents low, and so the resistor is the safest bet.

The simple ESD wristband makes a good footstrap. Allied to a coily cord and a bonding plug a wristband used as a footstrap is the most cost effective way of sleeping grounded at night.

If I rigged a battery (AAA 1.5V) to a wristband (conatct to -ve only) and I wore that while cycling or walking I’d be interested to monitor, with a multimeter, how long it would take for the battery to discahrge from the -ve terminal only. I had to think hard and slow, but I figure it would dishrge to 0.75V and no less. Whereas a battery used to drive a lamp could discharge to zero volts.

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By: Andre J Smith https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197343 Tue, 07 May 2013 17:48:02 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197343 Nice change in discussion from metabolic related health. Living in Africa close to the warm Indian ocean means that many of us not only wallow in the salt water for some hours a week but also walk barefoot a lot. For me whatever elusive benefit there may be in earthing is way overcome by the sheer freedom of skin to earth and water. In future, I will make sure that I caress as many water pipes as possible during the day to get that drained feeling out of me that old age and lack of coffee tends to bring.

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197329 Mon, 06 May 2013 10:31:19 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197329 Christoph,

Evolutionary biologists have trended to pin-point the origins of live to around 3.9 billion years. They are also quite convinced live began in proximity to deep ocean vents. The temperatures in such places could be turbulent, there could be a clash of alkalinity and acidity, with gases bubbling through, and the medium in which all this happened was, and remains a striking electrolyte. Something these people agree on is that the distinction between life, and the non-living involves proton gradients, which arise because electrons have become electrons have become ‘unpaired’.

We can readily see the global water cycle is a requisite for life, but the water cycle also results in the global electrical circuit, and quite undeniable there is 3.9 billion years of provenance of life residing upon the negative terminal of a giant battery.

Life is as bio-electrical as it is complex biochemistry. Life is radical chemistry.

The mistake you are making is confusing the whole and parts.

Electrons move kind of fast but only in good conductors, and they don’t move at all in the most resistant of insulators. But they move kind of slower in semi-conductors.

If you touch ground for 2 seconds you may balance a local and external charge for your fingers, your hand, of aspects of the body, but there remain balances and tiny electrical charges within the workings of cells and physiology that will be unaffected by such short correction to the levels ‘isolation’ only the human has achieved. Sure a short touch of ground may discharge some ‘static’, but it will not be long enough to address levels of latency, capacitance, or semi-conductivity that resides within.

We knew long a go that a current could cause a frogs leg to twitch, and we’ve known the nervous system and brain involves a lot of detectable electrical activity, how can it be so difficult to entertain that life requires frequent grounding, but in the rush to modernity we just didn’t notice?

Along the way to becoming diabetic, or developing cancer, or developing MS no one feels any different. They merely feel different once the symptoms arise.

There are people whose experience of earthing won’t have them feel much different, but they will be addressing the oxidative stress, inflammation, and physiological duress that associate with the pathway to developing the kind of chronic disease we rarely notice developing.

My heart goes out to ‘Sharon’, and her family. The interval between receiving a diagnosis of MS and her passing was no more than three years. She was the kindest, warmest, most ordinary and likeable person a person could meet, and in the face of an explanation she may not have understood earthing either.

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By: Martin Zucker https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197324 Sun, 05 May 2013 22:23:40 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197324 Your experience is so common. I hear these things on a routine basis. From all over the world now.
The whole thing is very simple: The Earth’s natural, gentle electric field is like a global treatment table. There is nothing “new agey” about this at all. This is really a timeless reality that has simply been revived now. Humans have increasingly separated themselves from Nature, and the increase in chronic illness is a primary consequence. Reconnecting with the Earth we live on is a simple antidote.
One of the comments here is that it sounds like quackery, yet it feels so good to walk barefoot on the beach, or as you did, in the park. Either way, park of beach, you are getting the same “stuff” from the Earth, and it is nurturing and healing. The Earthing products were made for indoor use to accommodate the research as well as to satisfy a natural, growing demand. They are “barefoot substitutes.”
The zeta potential study that you report on in your blog is indeed a small pilot study. You have to start somewhere. However, the implications are massive. A natural blood thinning and anti-inflammatory effect. Think of diabetics with cardiovascular disease. They have extremely poor zeta potential I have read quite a few reports of vastly improved neuropathy in the lower extremities through Earthing. One doctor has told me he has had a number of chronic cases that were healed with Earthing. There is little that conventional medicine has for this condition.
Earthing is something very special.
Best wishes
Martin Zucker, co-author of the Earthing book

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By: Thomas H https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197321 Sun, 05 May 2013 19:38:49 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197321 Of course this works. I am a healthy older man and i have used grounding now for 18 months!
Every morning I notice that i am not so old and my Wife has told me that my sleepingapne is half compare to earlier. So of course my cirkulutation is little better than before!
Maybe just some few procents, but this is really good!

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By: Christoph Dollis https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197312 Sun, 05 May 2013 11:10:58 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197312 I love peaceful-parenting advocate Dayna Martin and here’s her take on grounding (Facebook image)

OK, she’s not making a point about electricity, and in fact she’s making one about respecting kids, but aside from that, the photo is awesome and does show grounding with the Earth. I feel being in touch with the Earth can have wonderful psychological side effects.

Plus probably other physical ones through the molecules in the air, etc.

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By: Christoph Dollis https://www.drbriffa.com/new-study-on-earthing-finds-potential-benefits-for-the-circulation/#comment-197304 Sat, 04 May 2013 18:55:27 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5681#comment-197304 One suspects old wine in new skins:

the orgone energy accumulator

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