Comments on: If Diabetes UK wants to help diabetics, I suggest it stops recommending a diet that I think is utterly unsuitable for diabetics https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/ A health-focused blog that makes sense of science, and offers accurate, trustworthy and practical advice about all aspects of healthy living. Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:31:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.11 By: Peter https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-379581 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:31:37 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-379581 In reply to Chris.

Chris, there is one important you may not be aware of re low carb diets (apart from the obvious “dont feed glucose to a body that struggles to regulate it “) – for most people they reduce hunger. it is no coincidence that most effective weight loss programmes go down the high protein route – all the people I know who have genuinely tried low carb eating for over a week confirmed the same simple experience – carbohydrates make you hungry.

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By: MargaretRC https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-227168 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:22:05 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-227168 In reply to Chris.

@Chris, “…the main thing is to eat a healthy balanced diet…” That’s like telling someone with a peanut allergy to eat peanuts as part of a healthy balanced diet. As Dr. Briffa pointed out, diabetics by definition cannot handle carbhydrates, so why eat them? Do you realize that you could reduce or eliminate your need for metformin (and possibly lose weight) by restricting carbohydrates to mostly non starchy vegetables?

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By: Lucy Pepper https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-227109 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 11:56:58 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-227109 In reply to Brett Graham.

Not surprisingly the sponsors page ‘does not exist’ or has been moved. What could they possibly have to hide, hmmmm?

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By: MMartin https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-209184 Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:09:07 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-209184 In reply to Jules.

It really is not over-medicalisation but over pharmaceuticalisation (I am sure that ought to be a word.) The physiology of over-appetite with relative tiredness is very much a medical matter which has significant implications for public health. Research is not funded in this area and over-Psychologising has been extremely lucrative as it provides more malleable explanations which are ultimately useless. Everyone has a Psychological frame of reference and the exclusively Psycho-Sociological perspective, therefor, offers something for everyone. Pharmaceutical companies , whose funding dominates research, have legal obligations to their share-holders. The one thing they must never do is risk the prevention of lucrative diseases. This means that they must never allow a ‘body’ of research (eg 11betaHSD / “stress-related hormones”etc etc) to stray towards, for example, understanding appetite for Carbohydrates. Diabetes treatment=lucrative, Diabetes prevention=catastrophic. NHS consultants can find their career path greatly enhanced by working ‘well’ with these companies and can gain power in their field such that they can dictate the direction of their subject for decades.

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By: andrew cunningham https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-207957 Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:13:48 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-207957 Those crazy swedes
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/andrew-cunningham/swedish-nutrition-is-an-a_b_5598883.html

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By: clelia https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-205286 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:32:03 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-205286 The advice the NHS gives to diabetics is truly shocking – but it wasn’t always the case. My father was diagnosed with diabetes in 1960 – the year of my birth (they say shock can bring it on!).Not too surprising as his father had it plus other relatives on that side of the family. However the advice given to him then was to eat a low carb diet. It was pretty restrictive (I can’t remember the amounts) , however he lived to the age of 89 (so almost 50 years after diagnosis)and died following a fall where he hit his head(so no connection with diabetes). He only ever controlled his diabetes by following this low carb diet. In more recent years doctors would often advise him that he could eat pasta etc but he knew and so did my mother that this carb rich diet would be lethal. My two sisters both developed diabetes in their 40s but have stuck to a low carb diet despite being advised to the contrary.

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By: Carol https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204713 Thu, 29 May 2014 13:44:26 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204713 In reply to Christoph Dollis.

six reactive posts in one….wow LOL

and yet john barr GP is the voice of reason that done it for me 😉

just speaking from EXPERIENCE, I find that low(er) carb eating, and only then getting my carbs from fruit and veg, has been a turnaround for me and my hypothyroid related insulin resistance.

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By: Type 2 Diabetes – Could it Spell Doom For Us? | Natural treatment for IBS/food sensitivities/bloating/diarrhoea/reflux/weight Your Good Health – Naturally https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204710 Thu, 29 May 2014 11:45:39 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204710 […] This is a doctor’s view of the standard recommendations for diet, given to diabetics. […]

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By: David https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204678 Tue, 27 May 2014 13:07:03 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204678 In reply to Christine Simmons.

My experience of hospital food was the same’ with macoronni cheese, shepherd’s pie or a salad (rock hard tom, iceberg and a bit of cucumber) for lunch. I completed the food satisfaction survey with the addendum that it was statistically self serving as on the scale of 1-4 there were three options for acceptable or above (does anyone really think it’s excellent?). I believe that the food budget for hospital patients is substantially less than that for prisoners.

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By: David https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204675 Tue, 27 May 2014 11:49:15 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204675 In reply to Brett Graham.

‘ It’s shocking.’ Sadly, it isn’t anymore.
I aliken diabetes drug treatments to a builder using scaffolding to old up a collapsing building instead of rebuilding it properly; a short cut that will fail in the end.

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By: Dave P https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204329 Mon, 12 May 2014 20:17:14 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204329 Are we not missing a trick here ???

Anyone who has an Hba1c once or twice a year has their numbers recorded on the NHS data base. The sad part of it is they don’t record what nutrition plan you follow so the assumption is that you are doing the healthy plate unless your numbers are rising then its your fault. At my most recent last year my spec nurse was very amiable when I told her my approach she smiled and simply said well it obviously works for you. Of course it does !!!!
Diagnosed 2000, followed the advice and weight and numbers blossomed so the meds were sent in. Twice I got to 20 stone the 2nd time I was faced with insulin therapy. By chance I found out about LC and gave it a go for 3 months. I kept a record of my numbers, weight and blood pressure. I lost 2 stone so eased off and within 2 months it was going back on. So I got back on the treadmill for 6 months. 4 stone off and numbers on track. I took all my records at the next checkup. The GP was impressed with the weight-loss but didn’t want to know anything else. So from that moment I didn’t tell him. However my improved numbers are a matter of record on the NHS data base.

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By: RobD https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204323 Mon, 12 May 2014 13:21:25 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204323 A person in my family was diagnosed T2 in the late 60’s. The dietary advice then was low-carb, just as it had been since diabetes was first investigated by modern medcine. In the 70’s the advice was changed to ‘balanced’, much like DUK’s today. In your position I would ask, “What was the scientific basis for this change ?” and “Show me the evidence that compares the two and demonstrates that patients benefit from ‘balanced’ as opposed to low-carb”

Keep at it !

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By: David https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204319 Mon, 12 May 2014 10:51:40 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204319 In reply to Rachel.

You, or more likely someone not familiar with the HbAlc test, may find this interesting. Bear in mind that, as far as I know, this is one man’s opinion, but it’s a starting point. <a href="http://chriskresser.com/why-hemoglobin-a1c-is-not-a-reliable-marker&quot;.

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By: David https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204318 Mon, 12 May 2014 10:34:13 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204318 In reply to Christoph Dollis.

Perhaps you could have mentioned that the link is to a video by Dr Neil Barnard, one of a group of US physicians who claim to be able to cure diabetes by eating “plants”, their word, not mine, instead of the more usual “vegan diet”. I don’t know whether they are just scared of the word “vegan” but when a number of people all start using the same unusual terms there is a good chance that some kind of cult or religion is involved.

Starting working life as a psychiatrist he now claims to research human diet whilst maintaining an interest in abolishing research on animals. Without wishing to denigrate a concern for animal welfare, might there not be a conflict of interests, a tendency towards confirmation bias? Interesting to notice how many of his cohort grew up on farms, perhaps they were traumatised?

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By: Christoph Dollis https://www.drbriffa.com/if-diabetes-uk-wants-to-help-diabetics-i-suggest-it-stops-recommending-a-diet-that-i-think-is-utterly-unsuitable-for-diabetics/#comment-204302 Sun, 11 May 2014 17:03:46 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=6334#comment-204302 In reply to runner2009.

5.0–5.4 is the lowest mortality, the lowest point in the U-shaped curve.

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