Comments on: How does sunlight cause melanomas on the soles of the feet? https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/ A health-focused blog that makes sense of science, and offers accurate, trustworthy and practical advice about all aspects of healthy living. Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:30:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2.11 By: Thomas Keryk https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-198050 Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:30:09 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-198050 Has anyone considered what we put on our feet? Flip flops, sneakers, shoes, socks treated with triclosan and other antimicrobials could be a contributor. Leathers treated with chrome, rubber materials manufactured with who knows what. Chemicals being boiled to the surface of the flip flops by the sun, soaked up by the soles of the feet when done sunbathing. Vitamin D is made from cholesterol. What do these cholesterol lowering drugs do? Lower cholesterol, lower vitamin D (and low cholesterol is related to increased cancer risk). Question: do people who develop these melanomas have naturally (or induced) low levels of cholesterol to begin with? High cholesterol levels limits cancer development.

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By: André https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197916 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:25:21 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197916 One other thing Jack states is that humans are able to hydrate through the feet. So walking in the sea hydrates us. As seawater contains salt, the salt has to be reversed. That could be the reason only humans have sweaty feet. (apes don’t!). Can’t deny we seem to be exceptionally suited for a life along the shorelines. At the same time time that provides ‘grounding’; we need to ‘earth’ for proper energy creation. That’s why walking bare foot or on leather soles is so much better than rubber or plastic.

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197913 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:56:19 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197913 .Rise of the Continents

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197912 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:55:04 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197912 <a href=”http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01993gc”.Rise of the Continents

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197911 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:53:25 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197911 André,

Thank you so much for that link to Jack Kruse. His theories and propositions are not short on substance are they? I shall follow him attentively in future.

His piece, “QUANTUM BIOLOGY 9: PHOTOSYNTHESIS”, from 6th June 2013 deserves a thorough and attentive read through so I’ll be returning. In that piece he clearly levels the proposition that under the ‘rules’ of quantum biology photons from sunlight have the capacity to repair DNA, subject to intensity and ‘dose’.

m.penny,

Aquatic mammals have been linked to carnivorous land mammals who ventured into shallows in search of food. Professor Ian Stewart gives this theory an airing in <a Href=”http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01993gc”.Rise of the Continents (ep1/6) and it has something to do with a major geologic event way back when Africa was closely associated with Pangea. (It was late and I confess to nodding off.)

Dr Ancel Keys and Uri Geller incline me to retain some ambivalence to theories that emerged between the 1950s and 1970s – so I do not think my (several times) great-grandmother was a mermaid if that’s what you’re indicating what Hardy and Morgan each proposed. But ..

.. the business of hair loss, climate change, alterations to habitat, and human migration is thoroughly intriguing, and for a while yet the best answers we can hope for are ‘best-guesses’.

In a comment beneath the link André provides Jack Kruse answers pedro. He discusses the evolution of the bigger brain in the emerging human, and registers sentiments that show his favour that a seafood diet sourced from coastal margins provided brain specific nutrients that helped us on our way. I can see the logic in this. I think it is relevant, if not in isolation.

I favour the climate induced ‘wimp’ hypothesis that perceives a contraction in the habitat that supplied the former ape-diet for our ancestors had them reduced to scavenging a carcass after a true predator had had its fill, and then sourced marrow from bones and brains from skulls. This transition phase changed properties of the diet in ways that would permit a shrinking gut and an enlarging brain, it also permits emergence and evolution of sociological traits too, and allows for trending in steps to becoming intelligent tool-carrying hunters.

The importance of coastal and riverine habitats is not lost on Curtis Marean and Rick Potts of the Smithsonian. Marean is the director at the Pinnacle Point digs. The inhabitants at Pinnacle Point were sophisticates who adopted cyclical practices in keeping with tidal ranges. When the tides were their lowest the ancestors harvested seafood, and then when low tides were not so low they may have ranged inland in search of land animals and plants to eat. Then there is the thorny issue of migration.

Alice Roberts examined various theories about the routes of migration out of Africa in the Incredible Human Journey (book and TV). The most significant advances could have been made when sea-levels were lower, land-bridges would be better, and migrating ancestors could have utilised coastal routes and marine resources for food. Therein resides a problem for the bone collectors, since those margins are now far out to sea and under significant depths of water.

Kruse answers pedro, “Higher levels of Vitamin D cause hair loss in the primate clade. Another fact the bone collectors got wrong.” I read into this that Kruse thinks food richer in vitamin D could have us lose hair. Loss of hair and loss of deep pigmentation could have us adapt to being better able to synthesise vitamin D. I think the loss of hair and the prevalence of sweat glands on a human suggests adaptation to spending more time ranging under a hot sun in far more open grassland simply because it helps keep an increasingly accomplished biped cooler.

Foods that tend to be richer in Vitamin D tend to be cold-water fish, cos the beginnings of vitamin D sythesis start back with cold-water zooplancton and their place in the marine food chain. That has to be a boon in temperate and sub-temperate lattitudes.
It would be intersting to become informed how vtamin D synthesis and utilisation differs in a primate and modern human.

The answers are the kernels to questions that are not easy nuts to crack.

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By: m.penney https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197883 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:54:03 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197883 One answer to the ‘naked ape’ question is that our species went through an aquatic phase. Sir Alistair Hardy first noticed the similarities between us and the aquatic mammals in the 1960s, and Elaine Morgan has written several very persuasive books on the subject.
This hypothesis answers all the questions about why we are so different from our closest primate relatives.

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By: André https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197878 Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:48:31 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197878 Chris,

This site should give you some insights. Hope Dr Briffa doesn’t mind I refer to other sites. Anyway, I do not benefit from it 😉

http://www.jackkruse.com/quantum-biology-9-photosynthesis/

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By: Steve https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197877 Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:07:31 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197877 30 years ago , when I was 33, I developed a malignant growth, called a ‘rodent ulcer’ in those days if I remember correctly, just below my left eye. This was surgically removed. I am light-skinned and had never been a person who liked lying in the sun. It was recommended that I use a strong (factor 60 or 50) sun cream whenever I ventured out. Over the years I gradually grew out of the habit of using the stuff but noticed that despite spending long hours exposed to sunlight on holiday I never got burned. With the benefit of hindsight I now attribute this apparent immunity to the fact that over the last 20 years or so I have regularly eaten tomatoes, almost on a daily basis, and am now firmly of the opinion that they confer considerable benefit in tandem with sunlight.

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By: Sandy Angove https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197866 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:28:51 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197866 Interesting discussion. I’ve had a couple of ‘patches’ of Bowens Disease, also supposed to be sun connected… but they were both on the inside of my knee.. Hardly an area where one would expect to see excess exposure to the sun!

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By: Dr John Briffa https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197862 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:27:59 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197862 Nigel

I don’t understand why a melanoma would spontaneously form on the soles of the feet if there’s no stimulus to make it form.

Well, couldn’t you make the same argument about any type of cancer? What’s the stimulus for those? Sunlight? Probably not, right? So, why can’t it be the same for melanoma?

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By: Missnoma https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197860 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:45:15 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197860 “Effect” is correct in this case.

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By: Rita https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197859 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:17:43 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197859 Sun definitely does cause skin cancers, although whether melanoma specifically is caused is an open question. My mother, a very fair-skinned person, spent decades playing golf and gardening without sunscreen. Starting in her late 60’s, she had numerous basal cell and squamous cell carcinomas removed from her face and arms, the parts of her body most affected by sun.

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By: Nigel Kinbrum https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197856 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:00:11 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197856 George @ the High Fat Hep C Diet 14 June 2013 at 5:44 am #
“Nigel, wouldn’t there still be a primary melanoma somewhere more obvious? Melanomas are not supposed to be occult, that’s why we have mole maps?”
That sounds logical. I don’t know exactly where a melanoma cell is first formed. If it’s on the surface of a mole, that kills my theory. What if it’s under a mole? If it doesn’t travel, the mole becomes a melanoma. If it does travel, the melanoma forms elsewhere.

I don’t understand why a melanoma would spontaneously form on the soles of the feet if there’s no stimulus to make it form.

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By: Chris https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197851 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:24:07 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197851 Andr&eacute,

The loss of more heavy body hair in the evolution of the human from primate to modern human (naked ape) is interesting. It’s often put down to changes in climate, alterations to habitat, more grassy savannah, a decline in forestation, more time spent out on the savannah, and more time spent ranging and walking upright.
Did skin colour darken on the African continent as we shed our heavy body hair? I dunno, I’d speculate it did.
Did skin colour turn paler as early homos began to venture out of Africa and into the more temperate latitudes? The A to that Q is clear, I think.

I’d like to know more about the skin acting as the equivalent of a photo-voltaic cell. Do you know more about this and can you direct to sources that can explain it?

In the Wonders of Life series Prof Brian Cox was at pains to point out that life, including ‘us’, and biology, cannot breach the fundamental laws of physics. I am trending to think life cannot breach the fundamental nature of substance either, and so biology must conform to the less well understood laws of quantum physics.

In cosmology, I learned as late as this week, a small minority of people are shunning the mass, matter, and gravity centric models of the universe and turning to plasma, or energy, centric models. Here’s the piece that informed me.

In the last month I had a brainwave: Does biology, as a general rule, issue more ions, or ionised species of biochems, to the immediate environment as it takes in? Then the second question; do anions (the -ves) get a slight boost from some weak force as compared to cations (+ves) so, in other words, does a slight pressure gradient act upon anions such that under certain conditions more anions are issued than cations?
Those conditions, btw, are the exception, man-made, and arise when a species ceases to have permanent or frequent (habitual) and intermittent contact with ground. For under these conditions an unhealthy +ve charge builds up on the body and leads to complications, so the theory goes.

I don’t know how this pressure gradient would arise, if it exists it would have living things draw a weak current from ground, and it seems they do. Then If I had to guess I would say quantum theory as may apply to those endless reactions, or transactions, involving oxidation and reduction in biology may hold the key, as may the fact that all life on Earth experiences three forcefields, one being gravity, the second being electrostatic (stemming from the global electrostatic phenomenon) and the third being displacement (buoyancy) in water or air.

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By: Sam Mackrill https://www.drbriffa.com/how-does-sunlight-cause-melanomas-on-the-soles-of-the-feet/#comment-197849 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:09:16 +0000 http://www.drbriffa.com/?p=5776#comment-197849 Sam Shuster BMJ link should be : http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a764

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